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		<title>By: Three Things I 39 d Like to See 1 Holt Uncensored &#124; Menopause Relief</title>
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		<title>By: Bookstore People &#183; Excellent Thoughts on the Demise of Book Publishing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookstore People &#183; Excellent Thoughts on the Demise of Book Publishing</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] industry called Three Things I&#8217;d Like to See.  The first recommends that publishers have online royalty accounts for authors (this didn&#8217;t resonate well with the publishers).  I asked Claire recently how her book was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] industry called Three Things I&#8217;d Like to See.  The first recommends that publishers have online royalty accounts for authors (this didn&#8217;t resonate well with the publishers).  I asked Claire recently how her book was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyd48</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnyd48</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked as a staff editor at four different New York houses over a period of more than twenty years so I think I can speak with some knowledge.

Publishers do not want authors to know too much about what happens with their book in terms of sales, returns, etc. because, among other things, writers who have accurate knowledge of the performance of their books will not put up with the endemic and institutionalized withholding of income from authors disguised as reserve for returns and &quot;the foreign money payment didn&#039;t arrive during the current reporting period so you&#039;ll have to wait another six months--plus the standard three month delay before we actually issue the report, to lay hands on any of that income.&quot;

It&#039;s called &quot;float&quot; and it&#039;s a lot of what publishers live on while they&#039;re waiting for their accounts to pay them, months and months after they spent the money on printing and shipping.

You could call it a house of cards or you could call it criminal fraud, depending on your point of view and your spot in the food chain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked as a staff editor at four different New York houses over a period of more than twenty years so I think I can speak with some knowledge.</p>
<p>Publishers do not want authors to know too much about what happens with their book in terms of sales, returns, etc. because, among other things, writers who have accurate knowledge of the performance of their books will not put up with the endemic and institutionalized withholding of income from authors disguised as reserve for returns and &#8220;the foreign money payment didn&#8217;t arrive during the current reporting period so you&#8217;ll have to wait another six months&#8211;plus the standard three month delay before we actually issue the report, to lay hands on any of that income.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called &#8220;float&#8221; and it&#8217;s a lot of what publishers live on while they&#8217;re waiting for their accounts to pay them, months and months after they spent the money on printing and shipping.</p>
<p>You could call it a house of cards or you could call it criminal fraud, depending on your point of view and your spot in the food chain.</p>
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		<title>By: sync2pcs</title>
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		<dc:creator>sync2pcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh...  My comment was posted and then deleted.  Pretty sure I didn&#039;t swear or violate terms of service, and a response to it is still listed so I know I didn&#039;t dream it.   Reposting in case it was an error:

Evolution can be painful and success isn&#039;t always guaranteed.  Publishing has been under siege for a very long time and is probably going to be brought to its knees by the current (and just-beginning) economic crisis.  Reading in this society has fallen off a cliff, replaced by sound bites, TV, games, smart phones and other devices that don&#039;t require thought or sustained attention.  People used to grab a book for companionship, for the doctor&#039;s office wait, for the ride into work but now there&#039;s texting; find out what your buddies had for breakfast!  Instantly comment on the white-boots-black-pants hideousness of the woman standing 2 feet from you on the train....  We all want to write but we&#039;ve lost the desire to read.  That&#039;s so self-indulgent and also exactly where we are as a society:  we talk, but we don&#039;t listen.  We&#039;ve lost so much in the industry -- editors that work with authors, houses that nurture careers, literature that was great *and* profitable -- but we have to recognize that it&#039;s demand-driven, i.e. a slightly time-delayed mirror image of the world we live in.  What&#039;s a publisher to do?  People are reading less and less.  Fewer books are selling.  The entire cost structure is an anachronism.  Books, newspapers and magazines are all in the same boat, sliding slowly towards oblivion.  I think we&#039;ll eventually end up nearly exclusively digital and print-on-demand or print-at-home because that&#039;s the only financially viable structure.  At that point, of course, information will be instantaneous and there will be no excuse for authors to be in the dark about royalties.  In fact, at that point there&#039;s no reason not to self-publish, period.  But to focus on the lag in royalty information at this point in this industry is to complain about the dinner service on the Titanic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230;  My comment was posted and then deleted.  Pretty sure I didn&#8217;t swear or violate terms of service, and a response to it is still listed so I know I didn&#8217;t dream it.   Reposting in case it was an error:</p>
<p>Evolution can be painful and success isn&#8217;t always guaranteed.  Publishing has been under siege for a very long time and is probably going to be brought to its knees by the current (and just-beginning) economic crisis.  Reading in this society has fallen off a cliff, replaced by sound bites, TV, games, smart phones and other devices that don&#8217;t require thought or sustained attention.  People used to grab a book for companionship, for the doctor&#8217;s office wait, for the ride into work but now there&#8217;s texting; find out what your buddies had for breakfast!  Instantly comment on the white-boots-black-pants hideousness of the woman standing 2 feet from you on the train&#8230;.  We all want to write but we&#8217;ve lost the desire to read.  That&#8217;s so self-indulgent and also exactly where we are as a society:  we talk, but we don&#8217;t listen.  We&#8217;ve lost so much in the industry &#8212; editors that work with authors, houses that nurture careers, literature that was great *and* profitable &#8212; but we have to recognize that it&#8217;s demand-driven, i.e. a slightly time-delayed mirror image of the world we live in.  What&#8217;s a publisher to do?  People are reading less and less.  Fewer books are selling.  The entire cost structure is an anachronism.  Books, newspapers and magazines are all in the same boat, sliding slowly towards oblivion.  I think we&#8217;ll eventually end up nearly exclusively digital and print-on-demand or print-at-home because that&#8217;s the only financially viable structure.  At that point, of course, information will be instantaneous and there will be no excuse for authors to be in the dark about royalties.  In fact, at that point there&#8217;s no reason not to self-publish, period.  But to focus on the lag in royalty information at this point in this industry is to complain about the dinner service on the Titanic.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeCottonwood</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just before reading this post, I was checking my royalty figures online.  As Amanda indicated, the POD publishers are leading the way on this - probably because they&#039;re already digitally savvy.  I use BookSurge.  My royalty statement is updated daily and shows how many copies were sold each day.  When you&#039;re handling your own publicity, it&#039;s great to see instant royalty feedback on what works and what fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just before reading this post, I was checking my royalty figures online.  As Amanda indicated, the POD publishers are leading the way on this &#8211; probably because they&#8217;re already digitally savvy.  I use BookSurge.  My royalty statement is updated daily and shows how many copies were sold each day.  When you&#8217;re handling your own publicity, it&#8217;s great to see instant royalty feedback on what works and what fails.</p>
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		<title>By: suzannewhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzannewhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing is, we authors have long since booked passage on your &quot;Titanic&quot; and have been obliged to put up with the lousy dinner service for too many years. That&#039;s why we&#039;re focusing on the lag in royalty information. We don&#039;t feel sorry for the publishing industry&#039;s current difficulties. Nobody can stop the damn thing sinking. But even if it only exists for five or ten more years, we still want to know about sales and foreign publishing deals and we still want to be paid on time. Business is, after all, business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, we authors have long since booked passage on your &#8220;Titanic&#8221; and have been obliged to put up with the lousy dinner service for too many years. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re focusing on the lag in royalty information. We don&#8217;t feel sorry for the publishing industry&#8217;s current difficulties. Nobody can stop the damn thing sinking. But even if it only exists for five or ten more years, we still want to know about sales and foreign publishing deals and we still want to be paid on time. Business is, after all, business.</p>
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		<title>By: suzannewhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzannewhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How heartening to know that some other authors out there are as aware as I of the intentional opacity of publishers&#039; accountings. 

No. They do not wish to discuss print runs, marketing plans, publicity budgets or shipment/order numbers. We are not only peons. We are the parents of our books whose children have been kidnapped and are trapped in an unfriendly orphanage. We don&#039;t even have visitation rights -much less get paid what is due us for renting out our offspring for life. How are to we to know how many kids were sold to whom at what discount? How are we to know if a child becomes redundant and goes out of print?   When one of our children is no longer of any use to them, do they revert the rights to the parent? No. They just warehouse them. And leave us to worry about them not being available forever after. 

Book publishers dared tell Pat Holt that electronic online sales updates would cost a lot of money to establish. That&#039;s evidence of their ignorance. Or else it&#039;s a lie. (I vote for #2)  Surely, if they provided online reports for us all to consult monthly, they would be able to lay off some accounting people and can a few secretaries who send out those envelopes every six months. You don&#039;t have to pay health benefits for a computer.

My own books are published all over the world. Publishers the same everywhere. A conspiracy against the laity (that&#039;s us). Too busy to send out your royalty statements and checks because they are just getting ready for Frankfurt of the Paris book Salon was only last week or they have to rush off to the conference which nowadays passes for the ABA. French publishers render their phony accounts once a year  - usually 60 days late. (Le Salon of course has a very strong back)  I have taken to sending them a bill. The Chinese won&#039;t answer mail. The Germans send out accounts twice a year but they never sell anything. Bertelsmann has produced and sold my book for over ten years. But according to my royalty statements,  they have never sold any. 

I am on the pitchfork committee at suzanwhite@aol.com. Of course organizing a manifestation of authors to carry weapons through the streets of NY would be a life&#039;s work. But thanks to Pat Holt, this is a start. Let&#039;s make our desire for online sales reports known. Got any author friends? Let&#039;s send &#039;em a pitchfork and the url of this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How heartening to know that some other authors out there are as aware as I of the intentional opacity of publishers&#8217; accountings. </p>
<p>No. They do not wish to discuss print runs, marketing plans, publicity budgets or shipment/order numbers. We are not only peons. We are the parents of our books whose children have been kidnapped and are trapped in an unfriendly orphanage. We don&#8217;t even have visitation rights -much less get paid what is due us for renting out our offspring for life. How are to we to know how many kids were sold to whom at what discount? How are we to know if a child becomes redundant and goes out of print?   When one of our children is no longer of any use to them, do they revert the rights to the parent? No. They just warehouse them. And leave us to worry about them not being available forever after. </p>
<p>Book publishers dared tell Pat Holt that electronic online sales updates would cost a lot of money to establish. That&#8217;s evidence of their ignorance. Or else it&#8217;s a lie. (I vote for #2)  Surely, if they provided online reports for us all to consult monthly, they would be able to lay off some accounting people and can a few secretaries who send out those envelopes every six months. You don&#8217;t have to pay health benefits for a computer.</p>
<p>My own books are published all over the world. Publishers the same everywhere. A conspiracy against the laity (that&#8217;s us). Too busy to send out your royalty statements and checks because they are just getting ready for Frankfurt of the Paris book Salon was only last week or they have to rush off to the conference which nowadays passes for the ABA. French publishers render their phony accounts once a year  &#8211; usually 60 days late. (Le Salon of course has a very strong back)  I have taken to sending them a bill. The Chinese won&#8217;t answer mail. The Germans send out accounts twice a year but they never sell anything. Bertelsmann has produced and sold my book for over ten years. But according to my royalty statements,  they have never sold any. </p>
<p>I am on the pitchfork committee at <a href="mailto:suzanwhite@aol.com">suzanwhite@aol.com</a>. Of course organizing a manifestation of authors to carry weapons through the streets of NY would be a life&#8217;s work. But thanks to Pat Holt, this is a start. Let&#8217;s make our desire for online sales reports known. Got any author friends? Let&#8217;s send &#8216;em a pitchfork and the url of this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once upon a long-ago time, I stumbled over a POD publisher that did this. They provided a username and password to their authors for a section of their website so authors could go in whenever they so chose and look at a detailed rundown of their sales, with their total sales and total royalties listed plainly. Alongside this they also issued periodical royalty statements.

In my opinion, it&#039;s an incredibly useful tool, and I just don&#039;t understand why the trade publishers can&#039;t do it too. Granted, the publisher in question that I saw was a self-publisher, but they seem to have proven the idea&#039;s ability to operate as a viable system, and kudos to them for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once upon a long-ago time, I stumbled over a POD publisher that did this. They provided a username and password to their authors for a section of their website so authors could go in whenever they so chose and look at a detailed rundown of their sales, with their total sales and total royalties listed plainly. Alongside this they also issued periodical royalty statements.</p>
<p>In my opinion, it&#8217;s an incredibly useful tool, and I just don&#8217;t understand why the trade publishers can&#8217;t do it too. Granted, the publisher in question that I saw was a self-publisher, but they seem to have proven the idea&#8217;s ability to operate as a viable system, and kudos to them for it.</p>
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		<title>By: tinatessina</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinatessina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear!  As an author of 13 books published in 16 languages, I&#039;d LOVE  to see online royalty statements!  I&#039;m so tired of being the last to know  (one of my books was published in Chinese, one in Portuguese this year sometime, and I didn&#039;t find out until my author copies arrived.)


We&#039;re talking all things romance at the Dr. Romance Blog http://drromance.typepad.com/dr_romance_blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear!  As an author of 13 books published in 16 languages, I&#8217;d LOVE  to see online royalty statements!  I&#8217;m so tired of being the last to know  (one of my books was published in Chinese, one in Portuguese this year sometime, and I didn&#8217;t find out until my author copies arrived.)</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking all things romance at the Dr. Romance Blog <a href="http://drromance.typepad.com/dr_romance_blog/" rel="nofollow">http://drromance.typepad.com/dr_romance_blog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: KateDouglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>KateDouglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, Your blog could not have been more timely for me-my royalty check for the period from January to June is due next week, a payment time frame that seems like a lifetime ago-and as usual I haven&#039;t got a clue how much to expect. It&#039;s definitely frustrating, and the lack of information impacts promotion as well as bargaining on future contracts. We are definitely at the bottom of the 
food chain in this business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, Your blog could not have been more timely for me-my royalty check for the period from January to June is due next week, a payment time frame that seems like a lifetime ago-and as usual I haven&#8217;t got a clue how much to expect. It&#8217;s definitely frustrating, and the lack of information impacts promotion as well as bargaining on future contracts. We are definitely at the bottom of the<br />
food chain in this business.</p>
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